My Profile
Online Users
0 users
and 45 guests
online
Latest News
When 18 year-old Patrick Belton (Team Jeep) pedalled over the finish line in first place at Sunday's...
After last year’s heartbreak, Kevin Evans and David George smashed the course record to reclaim their...
Using the suspension training system – like the TRX or Jungle Gym – to increase the difficulty of...
Besides recently acquiring Italian motorcycle manufacturer Ducati, German auto manufacturer Audi has...
The schedule that we’ve discovered might only be provisional, but there are some interesting things to...Latest Forum Topics
By- Peter L
Today 16:19
Husqvarna Classic Mid-Illovo MTB Challenge Must of had a dose of concussion as well people I was with put me at 3h10 bracket
By- Griffin
Today 08:21
Looking to buy my first bike Ok...sounds like we do the same type of riding B)
Finding a bike that will suit your current riding style/goals as well as what you hope to do in the future is not easy...but is is possible (to a degree!). I think that most riders go through a stage of 1st bike, 2nd better bike and then really...
By- KZN Scottie
Today 08:06
Bikejoring Thanks, will have a look at the website. My male is very well socialized and I promise you he will change your perception of pitbulls very quickly. I wont try it with more than one of my dogs anyways, so I'd only try it with him.
By- Jason
Today 06:58
Intaba Ridge Classic 2012 Anyone doing this, its a new event and looks like it could be good :)
About Itaba Ridge here: http://www.intabaridge.co.za
Entries here: http://www.roag.co.za/enter-an-event/mtb/intaba-ridge-mtb-classic.aspx
Latest Blogs
-
-
-
I know I'm going on about this place but to be honest, its the closet to me, that offers downhill en
Directory
Upcoming Events
-
26 May -
26 MayClassic | Intaba Ridge Private Game Reserve, Bisley, Pietermaritzburg, Kwazulu-NatalSaturday, 26 May 2012 -
27 May
Random Albums
Random Videos
Trail Stats
Bike setup
This is usually more a personal preferance but it wouuld be interesting to hear how you all set up your bikes. shock preasure, tyre preasure, seat height, gear ratio, brakes and levers, etc
Discussion started by Candyman , on 439 days ago
this is my goose settings at the mo, front shock pressure is 0.5bar, rear, coil is half with full air pressure, tyres are 1.8bar, seat, as low as it can go, but would prefer if the seat was frame level, (i keep knocking the crown jewels, lol, ouch). gears are 9 and i usually keep it in 3rd or 5th, depending. can't think if im missing anything.
as you say, personal choice really. i would say it also depends on your riding style and the course setup. i have almost no air in my front shocks, rear is about 175kpa. seat is low, but not right down, i also have it tilted slightly upward in front so that it forces you back on the bike. tyre pressure is varied, depends on the track. hard track with lots of rock gardens or hard landings after jumps, i pump the tires up, reduces pinch punctures. softer course and sandy conditions, i lower the preasure to get more grip. also got some tips from more seasoned riders to turn my front tyre around so it rotates "backwards". the cups in the tread then give you more braking grip. i also only use 5th or 8th gear. so just go out personalise.
You both have Marzzoci 888s? a frien of mine also rides his with no air and they are still to hard.
On my Izimu ( Large frame)
I have old coil Boxxers with no adjustments ( but they are perfectly suited to me (I have bottomed them out a couple of times - but at least Im using the 200mm to the full)
On the back i have a Manitou swinger 4way with 400 x 2.75 spring ( i have it pumped to 150 psi)
I'm about 82kg and tend to thrash the bike about
The front tyre is Minion 2.7" at 1.8 bar and rear is a high roller 2.5" at 1.9 bar ( its a struggle to find the balance between grip and snakebites - anyone at the past weekend SA champs will concur)
The seat can go lower, but its comfortable as is.
I have standard 9 speed at the back and a monster 42 teeth chain-ring up front - I tried putting a smaller chain ring on (38 teeth) but the SPI singe pivot gives to much pedal feedback under braking - so I'm back to a 42 ( an no hope of pedalling uphill)
On my Izimu ( Large frame)
I have old coil Boxxers with no adjustments ( but they are perfectly suited to me (I have bottomed them out a couple of times - but at least Im using the 200mm to the full)
On the back i have a Manitou swinger 4way with 400 x 2.75 spring ( i have it pumped to 150 psi)
I'm about 82kg and tend to thrash the bike about
The front tyre is Minion 2.7" at 1.8 bar and rear is a high roller 2.5" at 1.9 bar ( its a struggle to find the balance between grip and snakebites - anyone at the past weekend SA champs will concur)
The seat can go lower, but its comfortable as is.
I have standard 9 speed at the back and a monster 42 teeth chain-ring up front - I tried putting a smaller chain ring on (38 teeth) but the SPI singe pivot gives to much pedal feedback under braking - so I'm back to a 42 ( an no hope of pedalling uphill)
My Freeride Bike:
Yeti AS-X (Medium)
Fork: Marzo 66RCV - running with no air, no compression and fastest rebound. Result, super plush :)
Rear Shock: Fox DHX 5 - medium preload. Dunno about air. rebound on the slow side (nice for jumping)
Seat: Rails deep but nose aimed at stem (so slight upward slant)
Tyres: Conti Mountainking 2.4s (lower rolling resistance han the minions I had on) Pressure = just under 3bar (I hate tyre roll)
My Downhill bike:
Morewood Izimu (Large)
Fork: Boxxer Team - compression to the minmum. Gate all the way open. rebound on the jackalope (fastest)
Rear Shock: Fox Van RC - Medium preload. Dunno about air. Rebound a little faster than the yeti.
Seat: Medium height (for a DH bike). Again, nose aimed at stem.
Tyres: Kenda Blue Groove 2.5s run at about 2.7bar (again, nothing worse than cornering and you feel your tyre rolling)
Yeti AS-X (Medium)
Fork: Marzo 66RCV - running with no air, no compression and fastest rebound. Result, super plush :)
Rear Shock: Fox DHX 5 - medium preload. Dunno about air. rebound on the slow side (nice for jumping)
Seat: Rails deep but nose aimed at stem (so slight upward slant)
Tyres: Conti Mountainking 2.4s (lower rolling resistance han the minions I had on) Pressure = just under 3bar (I hate tyre roll)
My Downhill bike:
Morewood Izimu (Large)
Fork: Boxxer Team - compression to the minmum. Gate all the way open. rebound on the jackalope (fastest)
Rear Shock: Fox Van RC - Medium preload. Dunno about air. Rebound a little faster than the yeti.
Seat: Medium height (for a DH bike). Again, nose aimed at stem.
Tyres: Kenda Blue Groove 2.5s run at about 2.7bar (again, nothing worse than cornering and you feel your tyre rolling)
hmm, interesting setups, like LaceMan says, personal choice. No, my front shocks are the Bomber shocks, with rebound adjust, 200mm black. my rebound i've set to about half. feels quite balanced. b4, i had like nothing in them, and they 1st where too soft, so i pumped them up a little, still to soft at 2bar, and saw my face in the dirt twice cause of it, on 4, they feel just right.
Damn boy, you got a monster up front, lol. i can imagine climbing is a b. i'm not sure how big my front chainring is, but it came stock with the bike. looks kinda small though. climbing is possible, but not recommended for longer than half a km, lol
Damn boy, you got a monster up front, lol. i can imagine climbing is a b. i'm not sure how big my front chainring is, but it came stock with the bike. looks kinda small though. climbing is possible, but not recommended for longer than half a km, lol
oh yea, like patches said, seat angled up, nose pointing to stem.
as far as i know the 2008 Boot'r came with a 36 tooth chaining.
as far as i know the 2008 Boot'r came with a 36 tooth chaining.
the boot'r does come out with a 36 tooth chainring. the bomber shocks and Marzzoci 888s are one and the same. bomber is just the name and the decal on the shock. i have managed to bottom out my bombers once only. they are pretty hard when compared to other brands but i really like the feel. it gives me a sense of stability. saw someone on a Morewood this last weekend and he was able to bottom out his shocks simply by pushing on them. super soft setup there.
climbing on a DH bike is never recomended, but then again, if i was in any way inclined to get fitter and stronger, then i guess i should be climbing. would certainly make me less tired on the way down if i was both of the above. ha ha
one thing that i have been told about suspension setup is that when you are learning, your front rebound should be pretty quick and your rear a bit slower, this way you will absorb more in front, rock after rock and the back won't flip you over the bars.
climbing on a DH bike is never recomended, but then again, if i was in any way inclined to get fitter and stronger, then i guess i should be climbing. would certainly make me less tired on the way down if i was both of the above. ha ha
one thing that i have been told about suspension setup is that when you are learning, your front rebound should be pretty quick and your rear a bit slower, this way you will absorb more in front, rock after rock and the back won't flip you over the bars.
mines an 'all mountain' set up Intense 6.6 medium
have a Rockshox Domain on the front, currently has a medium spring, have a soft on order, still waiting :( compression is maxed out due to the stiffer spring and rebound is on the slow side to allow some travel into the spring on multiple hits, can't wait for the soft spring will make a huge difference
rear is Fox RP23 XV (stands for extra volume, has a longer eye to eye and can give up to 7' on the right frame) it's pumped to 180kPa which gives me about 20-25% slack in the 'attack' position, if i'm running gnarly DH i drop it to around 165kPa and i get around 30-35% slack, rebound is at a faster rate for trail stuff and i slow it down for DH runs
saddle is a shimano pro series for the bmx set, short and strong, saddle height is adjusted on the go, have 3' Joplin seat post
tyres again varies to the terrain, usually prefer a soft set up as i run tubeless it allows the tyre to deform with the terrain for more grip but is prone to snake bites, usually around 1.8bar
have a Rockshox Domain on the front, currently has a medium spring, have a soft on order, still waiting :( compression is maxed out due to the stiffer spring and rebound is on the slow side to allow some travel into the spring on multiple hits, can't wait for the soft spring will make a huge difference
rear is Fox RP23 XV (stands for extra volume, has a longer eye to eye and can give up to 7' on the right frame) it's pumped to 180kPa which gives me about 20-25% slack in the 'attack' position, if i'm running gnarly DH i drop it to around 165kPa and i get around 30-35% slack, rebound is at a faster rate for trail stuff and i slow it down for DH runs
saddle is a shimano pro series for the bmx set, short and strong, saddle height is adjusted on the go, have 3' Joplin seat post
tyres again varies to the terrain, usually prefer a soft set up as i run tubeless it allows the tyre to deform with the terrain for more grip but is prone to snake bites, usually around 1.8bar
yo PHd, how is the Joplin? I considered getting one but was advised to hold out for the rockshox reverb
phenning, the reverb is already available from Chris Willemse Cycles http://www.cwcycles.co.za/product/rock-shox-reverb-seatpost
As for the Joplins... I've never owned one, but most people I know who have, have had trouble with them. High maintenance, Burst seals when landed on hard, play developing from side to side.
The option I was advised to go for (cos the Reverb doesn't come in a 27.2mm for my Yeti) is the KS-i7R (Now called a KS Super Natural 272 Remote, I think). The KS posts aren't very common here in SA, but in Europe and the UK they're rated VERY highly. Better than the Joplin and the Gravity Dropper. Heck... Brian Lopes uses them on his Ibis Mojo AM rig... so they must be good! hahaha!
If you get the version for the larger seatpost diameters, there's a model with 5" travel. Here's what the KS one's look like: http://kssuspension.com/posts.html#1
Oh! and they are available locally... after much searching I found the import agency... and then a month later I happened to run into the owner of that agency at a jump build... small world!
As for the Joplins... I've never owned one, but most people I know who have, have had trouble with them. High maintenance, Burst seals when landed on hard, play developing from side to side.
The option I was advised to go for (cos the Reverb doesn't come in a 27.2mm for my Yeti) is the KS-i7R (Now called a KS Super Natural 272 Remote, I think). The KS posts aren't very common here in SA, but in Europe and the UK they're rated VERY highly. Better than the Joplin and the Gravity Dropper. Heck... Brian Lopes uses them on his Ibis Mojo AM rig... so they must be good! hahaha!
If you get the version for the larger seatpost diameters, there's a model with 5" travel. Here's what the KS one's look like: http://kssuspension.com/posts.html#1
Oh! and they are available locally... after much searching I found the import agency... and then a month later I happened to run into the owner of that agency at a jump build... small world!
odd that, I haven't had any issues with my Joplin, I didn't by the remote version 'cause i don't have extra cable runs and didn't feel like glueing tabs and using ties
I've had mine just under a year and never had an issue with it, i bought a lizard skins headset cover to wrap around the seal in wet weather/ mud riding
i've never really had any serious issues with most items on my bike including my joplin because i maintain and service my own ride, something very few other riders do, including lopez
i hear of guys going on about bushing and pivot bearing issues, snapped chains, seized hubs popped seals all that ****.........in over 8 years of riding full suspension (12 years before on various other hardtails) i've never had those issues, never even had a chain snap on me, because i learnt how to maintain, service and repair every single component of my ride, she's well looked after and rewards me for it by not having these 'common' issues
personally I'm happy with the joplin and how it's performed, when i first got it i pulled it apart to see how easy it is to repair and maintain and it took me less than half an hour to strip and put back together, awesome
in the end take the time to learn how to repair and maintain and you won't have these issues that others have, since i completed the build of my 6.6 i've done over 1200km in all conditions and not one service at a bike shop (recently pulled my whole drive train off and redid it after the rainy season, headset section coming up next)
I've had mine just under a year and never had an issue with it, i bought a lizard skins headset cover to wrap around the seal in wet weather/ mud riding
i've never really had any serious issues with most items on my bike including my joplin because i maintain and service my own ride, something very few other riders do, including lopez
i hear of guys going on about bushing and pivot bearing issues, snapped chains, seized hubs popped seals all that ****.........in over 8 years of riding full suspension (12 years before on various other hardtails) i've never had those issues, never even had a chain snap on me, because i learnt how to maintain, service and repair every single component of my ride, she's well looked after and rewards me for it by not having these 'common' issues
personally I'm happy with the joplin and how it's performed, when i first got it i pulled it apart to see how easy it is to repair and maintain and it took me less than half an hour to strip and put back together, awesome
in the end take the time to learn how to repair and maintain and you won't have these issues that others have, since i completed the build of my 6.6 i've done over 1200km in all conditions and not one service at a bike shop (recently pulled my whole drive train off and redid it after the rainy season, headset section coming up next)
I also abide with the philosophy of maintaining the bike myself. its the only way you can trust that everything has been done properly
Ok guys, easy does it there now. Very interesting to hear what you guys think/have to say. Personally I would have to disagree, to agree, to disagree, with all you guys. From my 30 odd years of riding experience, I've encountered it all, from it happening to me or to others, (snapped chain, totally stripped cog, seat posts breaking and so the list goes on) over the years, i've also acquired quite a bit of bike maintenance skills, skills that I learned over in Germany, as well as self taught. It has been a blessing in many ways, and a great help.
Maintaining your bike is very important, yes, like a car, but many of us either don't have the time or have the actual knowledge to strip and repair our machines.
The only bike so far that I take for a service is my Boot'r, mainly cause I've never worked on a bike like her b4 and to be honest, at the mo, I have no time to do so, and figure out how she works. + the fact that I'm still paying her off. Once she's paid for, then I'll prob strip her down and find out what makes her tick. Just need time.
As was noted in the beginning, its about personal choice. If I had to say that my bike set up is the best in the world, you all gonna tell me that I'm talking crap or that the Boot'r is the best DH bike in the world, what would you say to that?
but anyway, we not here to argue, we here to learn, get educated and perhaps try out some things on our own bikes that others do, and see, does it work for me or not. I've learned that my bike setup was wrong, thats why I kept having the feeling that im going otb. From you guys i learned some things and applied them to my bike, wow, what a difference, but I'm not done yet. So bring it on fellas, i can take it aallll, i eata dem alllll, lol
Maintaining your bike is very important, yes, like a car, but many of us either don't have the time or have the actual knowledge to strip and repair our machines.
The only bike so far that I take for a service is my Boot'r, mainly cause I've never worked on a bike like her b4 and to be honest, at the mo, I have no time to do so, and figure out how she works. + the fact that I'm still paying her off. Once she's paid for, then I'll prob strip her down and find out what makes her tick. Just need time.
As was noted in the beginning, its about personal choice. If I had to say that my bike set up is the best in the world, you all gonna tell me that I'm talking crap or that the Boot'r is the best DH bike in the world, what would you say to that?
but anyway, we not here to argue, we here to learn, get educated and perhaps try out some things on our own bikes that others do, and see, does it work for me or not. I've learned that my bike setup was wrong, thats why I kept having the feeling that im going otb. From you guys i learned some things and applied them to my bike, wow, what a difference, but I'm not done yet. So bring it on fellas, i can take it aallll, i eata dem alllll, lol
I must admit that I'm terrible when it comes to maintenance of my rides. Maybe that's why I favour the KS posts. Well... and cos the Joplin doesn't come in 27.2mm
But here's the general user opinions on the one vs the other.
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6753264
But here's the general user opinions on the one vs the other.
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6753264
Replies
